Dana Gardner: Hi, this is Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, and you’re reading BriefingsDirect. Our next IT operations strategy panel discussion explores how the IT4IT™️ Reference Architecture for IT management creates demonstrated business benefits – in many ways, across many types of organizations.
Since its delivery in 2015 by The Open Group, IT4IT has focused on defining, sourcing, consuming, and managing services across the IT function’s value stream to its stakeholders. Among its earliest and most ardent users are IT vendors, startups, and global professional services providers.
To learn more about how this variety of highly efficient businesses and their IT organizations make the most of IT4IT – often as a complimentary mix of frameworks and methodologies — we are now joined by our panel:
- Lars Rossen, Fellow at Micro Focus, in Copenhagen;
- Mark Bodman, Senior Product Manager at ServiceNow, in Austin;
- John Esler, Client Principal at Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) Pointnext, in Denver;
- Rob Akershoek, IT Architect at Fruition Partners, a DXC Technology Company, in Amsterdam;
- Varun Vijaykumar, Associate General Manager and ITSM Architect at HCL Technologies, in Raleigh-Durham, and
- Jerrod Bennett, CEO and Co-Founder at Dreamtsoft, in San Diego.
Welcome to you all. Big trends are buffeting business in 2019. Companies of all kinds need to attain digital transformation faster, make their businesses more intelligent and responsive to their markets, and improve end user experiences.
So, software development, applications lifecycles, and optimizing how IT departments operate are more important than ever. And they need to operate as a coordinated team, not in silos.
One framework to rule them all

Lars Rossen
Rossen: There are a number of reasons, but the starting point is the fact that it’s truly end-to-end. IT4IT starts from the planning stage — how to convert your strategy into actionable projects that are being measured in the right manner — all the way to development, delivery of the service, how to consume it, and at the end of the day, to run it.
There are many other frameworks. They are often very process-oriented, or capability-oriented. But IT4IT gives you a framework that underpins it all. Every IT organization needs to have such a framework in place and be rationalized and well-integrated. And IT4IT can deliver that.

Mark Bodman
Mark, when you encounter someone who says IT4IT, “What is that?” What’s your elevator pitch, how do you describe it so that a lay audience can understand it?
Bodman: I pitch it as a framework for managing IT and leave it at that. I might also say it’s an operating model because that’s something a chief information officer (CIO) or a business person might know.
If it’s an individual contributor in one of the value streams, I say it’s a broader framework than what you are doing. For example, if they are a DevOps guy, or a maybe a Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) guy, or even a test engineer, I explain that it’s a more comprehensive framework. It goes back to the nature of IT4IT being a hub of many different frameworks — and all designed as one architecture.
Everyone, everything on the same page

John Esler
Esler: A lot of our clients have implemented a lot of different kinds of software — automation software, orchestration software, and portals. They are sharing more information, more data. But they haven’t changed their operating model.
Bennett: We are hearing in the field is that IT departments are generally drowning at this point. You have a myriad of factors, some of which are their fault and some of which aren’t. The compliance world is getting nightmare-strict. The privacy laws that are coming in are straining what are already resource-constrained organizations. At the same time, budgets are being cut.
Jerrod Bennett
The other side of it is the users are demanding more from IT, as a strategic element as opposed to simply a support organization. As a result, they are drowning on a daily basis. Their operating model is — they are still running on wooden wheels. They have not changed any of their foundational elements.
Success via stability
Varun Vijaykumar
Vijaykumar: When we look at the industry in general there are a lot of disruptive innovations, such as cloud computing taking hold. You have other trends like big data, too. These are driving a paradigm shift in the way IT is perceived. So, IT is not only a supporting function to the business anymore — it’s a business enabler and a competitive driver.
Now you need stability from IT, and IT needs to function with the same level of rigor as a bank or manufacturer. If you look at those businesses, they have reference architectures that span several decades. That stability was missing in IT, and that is where IT4IT fills a gap — we have come up with a reference architecture.
“You have to have a framework like IT4IT that allows you to have a hybrid environment to manage it all.”
Esler: One thing you have to remember, too, is that this is not just about new stuff. It’s not just about artificial intelligence (AI), Internet of Things (IoT), big data, and all of that kind of stuff — the new, shiny stuff. There is still a lot of old stuff out there that has to be managed in the same way. You have to have a framework like IT4IT that allows you to have a hybrid environment to manage it all.
Solutions for any size business
Bennett: SMBs have less pain, but proportionally it’s the same, exact problem. Larger enterprises have enormous pain, the midsize guys have medium pain, but it’s the same mess.
But the SMBs have an opportunity to get a lot more value because they can implement a lot more of this a lot faster. They can even rip up the foundation and start over, a greenfield approach. Most large organizations simply do not have that capability.
Reference architecture connects everything
Rob Akershoek
Akershoek: You are right, there is growing complexity. We have more services to manage, more changes and releases, and more IT data. That’s why it’s essential in any sized IT organization to structure and standardize how you manage IT in a broader perspective. It’s like creating a bigger picture.
The IT4IT framework can help bring ITIL and SAFe together without changing the IT organizations using them … and they can collaborate better.
The IT4IT framework can help bring those two things – ITIL and SAFe — together without changing the IT organizations using them. ITIL can still be relevant for the helpdesk, et cetera, and SAFe can still function — and they can collaborate better.
Go with the data flow
Vijaykumar: When we talk about DevOps, typically organizations focus on the entire service design lifecycle and how it moves into transition. But the relationship sometimes gets lost between how a service gets conceptualized to how it is translated into a design. We need to use IT4IT to establish traceability, to make sure that all the artifacts and all the information basically flows through the pipeline and across the IT value chain.
It defines how those integrations are established. And that is vital to having an effective DevOps framework because you are essentially relying on traceability to ensure that people receive the right information to accept services, and then support those services once they are designed.
Holistic strategy benefits business
Bennett: I will give an example. I hate the word, but “synergy” is all over this. Breaking down silos and having all this stuff in one place — or at least in one process, one information framework — helps the larger processes get better.
The classic example is Agile development. Development runs in a silo, they sit in a black box generally, in another building somewhere. Their entire methodology of getting more efficient is simply to work faster.
If you input a little bit of strategy in front of that and get the business to decide what it is that they want you to develop – then all of a sudden your throughput goes through the roof.
IT to create and consume products
As the company gets better at product management, we can get more products out there. And that’s the goal for many IT shops.
As we make the product better, we automatically make our IT organization better because we are consuming it. Our customer is our IT shop, and we deploy our products to manage our products. It’s a very nice, natural, and recursive relationship. As the company gets better at product management, we can get more products out there. And that’s the goal for many IT shops. You are not creating IT for IT’s sake, you are creating IT to provide products to your customers.
Gardner: Rob, at Fruition Partners, a DXE company, you have many clients that use IT4IT. Do you have a use case that demonstrates how powerful it can be?
Akershoek: Yes, I have a good example of an insurance organization where they have been forced to reduce significantly the cost to develop and maintain IT services.
Initially, they said, “Oh, we are going to automate and monitor DevOps.” When I showed them IT4IT they said, “Well, we are already doing that.” And I said, “Why don’t you have the results yet? And they said, “Well, we are working on it, come back in three months.”
But after that period of time, they still were not succeeding with speed. We said, “Use IT4IT, take it to specific application teams, and then move to cloud, in this case, Azure Cloud. Show that you can do it end-to-end from strategy into an operation, end-to-end in three months’ time and demonstrate that it works.”
And that’s what has been done, it saved time and created transparency. With that outcome they realized, “Oh, we would have never been able to achieve that if we had continued the way we did it in the past.”
Gardner: John, at HPE Pointnext, you are involved with digital transformation, the highest order of strategic endeavors and among the most important for companies nowadays. When you are trying to transform an organization – to become more digital, data-driven, intelligent, and responsive — how does IT4IT help?
Esler: When companies do big, strategic things to try and become a digital enterprise, they implement a lot of tools to help. That includes automation and orchestration tools to make things go faster and get more services out.
But they forget about the operating model underneath it all and they don’t see the value. A big drug company I worked with was expecting a 30 percent cost reduction after implementing such tools, and they didn’t get it. And they were scratching their heads, asking, “Why?”
We went in and used IT4IT as a foundation to help them understand where they needed change. In addition to using some tools that HPE has, that helped them to understand — across different domains, depending on the level of service they want to provide to their customers — what they needed to change. They were able to learn what that kind of organization looks like when it’s all said and done.
Gardner: Lars, Micro Focus has 4,000 to 5,000 developers and needs to put software out in a timely fashion. How has IT4IT helped you internally to become a better development organization?
Streamlining increases productivity
We can align much more to a common strategy around how all our products are being developed and delivered to our customers. It’s been a massive change.
The future belongs to IT4IT
Theoretically it could have been done in the 1980s and it would still be relevant because they were doing the same thing. There isn’t anything new in IT, there are lots of new-fangled toys. But that’s all just minutia. The foundation hasn’t changed. I would argue that in 2040 IT4IT will still be relevant.
Gardner: Varun, do you feel that organizations that adopt IT4IT are in a better position to grow, adapt, and implement newer technologies and approaches?
There isn’t anything new in IT, there are lots of new-fangled toys. … The foundation hasn’t changed. … In 2040, IT4IT will still be relevant.
The new R2F capability allows an organization to transform, from being a cost center that does what people ask, to becoming a service provider and eventually a service broker, which is where you really want to be.
- Lars Rossen, Fellow at Micro Focus, in Copenhagen;
- Mark Bodman, Senior Product Manager at ServiceNow, in Austin;
- John Esler, Client Principal at Hewlett Packard Enterprise Pointnext, in Denver;
- Rob Akershoek, IT Architect at Fruition Partners, a DXC Technology Company, in Amsterdam;
- Varun Vijaykumar, Associate General Manager and ITSM Architect at HCL Technologies, in Raleigh-Durham, and
- Jerrod Bennett, CEO and Co-Founder at Dreamtsoft, in San Diego.